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April 3

Portal:Current events/2025 April 3

April 3, 2025 (2025-04-3) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip The Israel Defense Forces retakes control of Rafah prompting thousands of Palestinians to flee the city. (Reuters) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration A 25% tariff on all automotive imports into the United States enters force. No exemptions are announced despite requests from several major trade partners, including Japan and the United Kingdom. (Reuters) International relations International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli leaders Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu lands in Budapest, Hungary, a signatory of the International Criminal Court, for a state visit in defiance of the International Criminal Court's arrest warrant against him for war crimes. (The Jerusalem Post) The Hungarian Government announces it will withdraw from the ICC. (Reuters)

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April 2

Portal:Current events/2025 April 2

April 2, 2025 (2025-04-2) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War Russian invasion of Ukraine Kharkiv strikes Russian forces target Kharkiv with at least 13 Geran-2 drones, causing fires in industrial and residential areas and injuring eight people, including a child. (Ukrainska Pravda) Kryvyi Rih strikes A Russian missile strike on an industrial park in Kryvyi Rih, Ukraine, kills at least four people and injures 14 others. (Reuters) Sudanese civil war Siege of El Fasher At least two civilians are killed in the artillery shelling of a displacement camp in El Fasher, North Darfur, Sudan, by the Rapid Support Forces. (AP) Middle Eastern crisis Israeli invasion of Syria The Israeli Air Force launches airstrikes in Syria targeting the remaining "military infrastructure", destroying much of Hama Air Base and Tiyas Air Base, including all remaining hangars and radars. The Barzah scientific research centre is also reportedly bombed. (The Times of Israel) Gaza war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu announces the country's military will seize large areas of land in the Gaza Strip and establish a new occupation zone called the Morag Corridor, potentially stretching from Rafah to Khan Younis. (AP) Iran–United States relations The United States Air Force deploys 6 nuclear-capable B-2 Stealth Jets to Diego Garcia, amid rising tensions with Iran over their nuclear program. (AP) Myanmar civil war The Myanmar government declares a temporary ceasefire with the National Unity Government-in-exile and its various allied ethnic armed organizations to facilitate relief efforts following the MW 7.7 earthquake in the country several days ago. The ceasefire is expected to last until April 22. (DW) M23 campaign (2022–present) 2025 Walikale offensive Wazalendo militias broke through March 23 Movement (M23) positions in Kampala, DRC, and launched an attack on the M23 rebels in Walikale. (Critical Threats) Arts and culture Classical archaeology Archaeologists with the Vienna Museum announce the discovery of a mass grave in Simmering district in Vienna, Austria, of around 150 Ancient Roman soldiers from the 1st century who likely died in a battle. (DW) (Caledonian Record) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration China–United States trade war, 2025 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico Donald Trump's Liberation Day speech U.S. president Donald Trump announces a universal 10% tariff on most imports into the United States, a 20% tariff on goods from the European Union, and a 34% tariff on all imports from China. The tariffs will take effect from April 5. Exceptions include Canada, Cuba, Mexico, North Korea, and Russia. Canada and Mexico had tariffs placed on them in February, while Cuba, North Korea, and Russia are under U.S. sanctions. (BBC News) (France 24) (India Today) The United States Senate votes 51-48 on a non-binding resolution to rebuke and reverse tariffs on Canada, with Republicans Rand Paul, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and Mitch McConnell voting for the resolution. (NPR) Disasters and accidents Tornado outbreak of April 1–3, 2025 The Storm Prediction Center in the United States issues a high risk convective outlook over parts of the Mississippi River valley, ahead of an expected tornado outbreak. (Storm Prediction Center) (Nine News) Tropical cyclone naming The World Meteorological Organization retires Beryl, Helene, Milton, and John from their rotating list of names for hurricanes for the North Atlantic and East Pacific basins.(WMO) Five people are killed and at least one other is critically injured when a private Maharashtra State Road Transport Corporation bus collides head-on with two vehicles on the Khamgaon-Shegaon highway in Buldhana, Maharashtra, India. (News18 India) A Russian Air Force Tupolev Tu-22M strategic bomber crashes due to a technical malfunction in Irkutsk Oblast, Russia, killing one crew member and injuring three others. (Reuters) Health and environment The Slovak government approves a plan to cull 350 brown bears after a man was found mauled by a bear on March 30. The government had previously culled 144 bears in 2024. (AP) The Polish government increases border controls with Slovakia in response to the outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease among Slovakia's and Hungary's livestock. (TVN24) Law and crime War on drugs in Ecuador A court in New York City indicts José Adolfo Macías Villamar, the leader of the organized crime syndicate Los Choneros, on seven counts of drug trafficking, conspiracy, arms trafficking, and illegal drug distribution in the United States. Villamar is not currently in U.S. custody. (AP) Sports 2025 CFL season TSN president Stewart Johnston is announced as the 15th commissioner of the Canadian Football League, replacing Randy Ambrosie who had served in the role since 2017. (CBC)

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(Posted) Trump Tariffs

Article: Tariffs in the second Trump administration (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ US President Donald Trump imposes sweeping trade tariffs on most countries. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ US President Donald Trump declares a national emergency to announce tariffs on all imports.
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Ad Orientem (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Obviously the main story globally for the last several days and probably for the next few. Ad Orientem (talk) 21:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

2025-April-02-Reciprocal tariffs (left half)

Trump showing a chart with reciprocal tariffs (shame about the teleprompter)

• Support per nom. AsaQuathern (talk) 21:11, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Wait until we see what the international response is. We only posted the ones against Canada and Mexico because they instituted their own tariffs in response. If no one else does anything, will this can have international reach it becomes really only a US problem. But if we see trade wars start with other nations, then that makes this very significant. Masem (t) 21:15, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  It's not if, but rather when and how bad will it be. The EU is already preparing retaliatory measures.[1] -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:20, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  Which why it is better to wait until those are actually announced and not just planned. The story is the international trade war started by these, but we should make sure that trade war actually materializes Masem (t) 21:24, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Wait per Masem and WP:NTRUMP. We need to wait and see if the retaliatory tarrifs have a noticeable enough impact to warrant notability. Kaito-san (talk/contribs) 21:46, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support This is basically tariffs on every country in the world from the richest country in the world. Beyond notable, regardless of impact. Personisinsterest (talk) 21:59, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Tariffs will continue until morale improves, apparently. Article looks comprehensive and economic implications are massive. Bremps... 22:09, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support, although I can't help but wonder if an article for these "Liberation Day" tariffs might not be warranted. I suppose that'll have to come as the impacts make themselves more apparent. BSMRD (talk) 22:45, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

It's probably why we should wait to see what international actions are done because more likely a 2025 international trade war would be the best target Masem (t) 23:00, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Strong support, this is a massive world event, and I'd even support a separate article about just these tariffs. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 23:02, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose The list of reciprocal tariff rates is cited to a tweet. Such social media from the Trump administration and policy in general is not reliable because of their history of flip-flops and make-it-up-as-you-go. Most countries often tinker with their taxes and so there's lots of news in the UK about its government's fiscal policy. The devil is in the details with this stuff and that will take time to work through and settle down, which may not happen any time soon. We shouldn't just report the Trump speech as given per WP:SOAP. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:08, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment on media: I've had a look what's available online and found a couple of media files that could possibly illustrate this story (if we don't want to use Trump's official portrait). See what you think. Schwede66 23:28, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  As long as we don't directly rely on White House sources. Bremps... 00:45, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose: Just another unremarkable thing done by Trump (adjust tariffs) that is treated as a big deal only because it's Trump. If John Doe, president of Foo, did a similar thing nobody would conder this worth of ITN Cambalachero (talk) 23:36, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  In all due respect, that's not correct at all. Look at Foreign policy of the Joe Biden administration, Presidency of Joe Biden, Presidency of Barack Obama and Foreign policy of the Barack Obama administration as a comparison. The word "tariff" only occurs in the Biden admin in regards to Chinese tariffs, and the word doesn't even occur once in the Obama articles. This is Trump making sweeping tariffs against many of America's trade partners out of nowhere plus a general 10% additional tariff. This will have a huge impact economically on America and the broader world. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:49, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  This may be new for the US, but it's common in the international stage. Cambalachero (talk) 03:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  No, this is almost unheard of and I would gladly support if up next, Zimbabwe or Bhutan does the same kind of thing, regardless of how "not relevant" the country is in the global world stage. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 14:24, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  He is not your neighbourhood crazy uncle, but he is the President of the United States. Your neighbour wouldnt affect your employment or egg price in Walmart, but Trump can, and is passionate about doing so in the wrong way. His power enables him to actually implement his crazy ideas, which would affect everyone on this planet. In this case, in the worse scenario possible HolyCrocsEmperor (talk) 02:31, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Wait until the tariffs become live. This is undoubtedly major news and will affect the global economy if implemented for even less than a week, but we have to see them be live first. PrimalMustelid (talk) 23:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Even if Trump repeals them five minutes from now, it's going to have a major impact on the world economy. Financial markets are already down substantially. --Carnildo (talk) 04:26, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support This is a major escalation, and distinct from the trade war with Mexico and Canada. It could have serious impacts on the entire global economy and is much larger in scale, if implemented. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: This is the biggest news today in the world, literally because every country is affected. Universally 10% is too crazy that it looks plain, but millions if not billions of jobs would be at stake. HolyCrocsEmperor (talk) 02:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Support/Wait Due to the scale of these tariffs. This affects nearly every important country on the world stage. However, we should probably wait a day or two to see the international response as Masem and PrimalMustelid suggested. Hungry403 (talk) 02:33, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Lots of people were watching this, and it's not just politics since business decisions are also affected. In fact I remember reading that for many CEOs, April 2 (aka "Liberation Day") couldn't come quickly enough. Unless the tariffs are walked back on soon, this will affect billions upon billions of goods and services; I don't see why that would not be worth posting. Banedon (talk) 02:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support One of the biggest economies in the world making sweeping tariffs, which will have huge impact on the global economy. Harizotoh9 (talk) 03:08, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Will have enormous global ramifications, very clearly meets the ITN threshold. Mlb96 (talk) 04:09, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support: This will absolutely impact the global economy, and poses a significant issue. Support a different blurb than the current suggested blurb as it feels too general. Tofusaurus (talk) 05:19, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

 Posted. El_C 05:51, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Push back Not seeing a consensus for this but so it goes. What I do see is that there's already pushback for this in the Senate. You see, the President doesn't have complete freedom to do as he pleases with tariffs. Trump is abusing the International Emergency Economic Powers Act which is supposed to be for "unusual and extraordinary" cases, not a global policy affecting all trade. If there's an economic emergency, it will be of Trump's making! Anyway, the point is that this is an ongoing situation in which pushback is happening both domestically and internationally. The blurb presents it as a done deal when it's just the start. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:50, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  The Senate bill is not expected to pass the house according to analysts but we'll have to wait and see. Yes, Congress could close the loopholes that Trump is using, but they haven't yet. Harizotoh9 (talk) 07:22, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  Well, obviously I judged there being consensus (at the very least a WP:ROUGHCONSENSUS), so I will not be doing that. El_C 07:28, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  At the time of posting there were 12 supports, 2 opposes, and 3 waits. Of course it's not a vote and strength of argument counts, but there was clearly a consensus in favour of posting. I do think it would have been better to wait a few hours, so editors in Europe had a chance to comment (this all happened overnight for them). Modest Genius ^talk 11:13, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  What needs work now is the blurb so that it doesn't normalize the idea that Trump controls tariffs by diktat. The blurb currently doesn't explain that Trump has declared a national emergency in the US, as his pretext for this. To make this clearer, the blurb would be

US President Donald Trump declares a national emergency to announce tariffs on all imports.

Andrew🐉(talk) 08:52, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Getting into how Trump introduced tariffs when it is not normally within his power is getting into the weeds for the main page of a global encyclopedia (But obviously should be covered at the article). What the blurb is lacking is the impact. Its why we should wait to verify what other nations are likely to do, with the expectation it will start a trade war and potentially a recession/depression at a large scale (if not just in the US). Even seeing how bad the markets dive from this (based on overnight trading) would be something. Right now the blurb gives zero suggestions of its importance and only if you have been following the news do you know what that means. We shouldn't assume that for the readers. Masem (t) 12:09, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Post-posting support. While there are some reasonable arguments above, this is undoubtedly headline news around the world. Deliberately causing economic damage to trading partners is a big deal. We can't post every tariff that Trump imposes, but collectively these are a large package that affects most of the world economy. It's good to keep the blurb simple too, without attempting to explain his stated reasons (or why they're bogus). Modest Genius ^talk 11:13, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment, should we consider mentioning the fact that stock markets across the world are plunging in response? User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 12:12, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support. Whilst it's tempting to say "oh, it's just another on the list of stupid ideas that Trump thinks are cool", this one is genuinely worldwide front page news, for obvious reasons. And no, we shouldn't try to kick it into the long grass by saying "Wait for responses", the story is this, happening now. Black Kite (talk) 14:49, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Bill Cottrell

Article: Bill Cottrell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BeanieFan11 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death announced today. The NFL's first black center, and one of the first articles I'd written, back in 2020. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:49, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article is generally well cited and long enough, though some clarification regarding the death date would be quite helpful. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 22:07, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Khamtai Siphandone

Article: Khamtai Siphandone (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Laotian Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Jmanlucas (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former president of Laos. Jmanlucas (talk) 18:12, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support- Page looks good and the guy is worthy for ITN LuxembourgFan42 (talk) 21:49, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support Full enough article. Longest lived world leader ever. Doesn't meet Thatcher/Mandela criteria for ITN though. Bremps... 22:12, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Longest lived was Celâl Bayar. Curbon7 (talk) 09:54, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 00:39, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Chinese landing barges

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: PLA Navy landing barges (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ China starts testing invasion barges which extend bridges to form a pier. (Post)
News source(s): NYT, US Naval War College, CNN, Naval News
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by No Swan So Fine (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: These new barges are being tested on China's south coast currently and these seem more significant than the current exercises around Taiwan. The barges put down feet into the sea bed and then extend bridges to form a pier. These would enable fast roll-on/roll-off logistics for a naval invasion of places such as Taiwan. These seem as significant as the Mulberry harbours were for the D-Day invasion of Europe. Our article needs expansion but the US Naval War College paper has lots of good detail. What I've not found yet is a good free image but I'm just getting started after reading the electrifying article in the NYT. That's dated April 1st but this does not seem to be a joke. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:14, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose: Sorry, but I don't see landing barge tests as blurb-worthy. Plus, the article PLA Navy landing barges itself is only slightly more detailed than a stub. — MarkH₂₁^talk 07:47, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• It's early days yet. I've just edited the article to add more sources and detail. There are lots of naval buffs on Wikipedia and I expect that they will do more as the news breaks. Watch this space... Andrew🐉(talk) 08:08, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose and snow close - Weapons and equipment tests are not significant enough to warrant a blurb even when they strongly suggest impending invasion, and any suggestion that this will be used in any military operations is leaning into WP:CRYSTAL territory since it is not guaranteed that these things will be used as per my understanding, even though common sense says it is highly plausible. Tube·of·Light 08:53, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Interesting but not really of ITN significance (which itselfs derives from the crystalball of use in an invasion) as reflected by the blurb. Perhaps DYK. We did not post the minor Cross Strait crisis around an year ago, these developments are even less significant. Gotitbro (talk) 09:16, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. Militaries test new equipment all the time. If these landing craft are used in an actual invasion, then we can post. Merely trialling them isn't significant enough. DYK might be a possibility, but the article would require expansion to meet their requirements. Modest Genius ^talk 10:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - The beginning of tests of a technology is obviously not ITN material. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:47, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose not ITN material. Secretlondon (talk) 12:10, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. A military exercise is not ITN-worthy.

675930s (talk) 13:31, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Strong oppose and SNOW close until they start actually a-landin'. Departure– (talk) 13:33, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above, especially I agree with Tube·of·Light 's comment. Even if it used in a military operation, at that point I think the operation itself would be on ITN instead of the technology itself. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 13:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Huge Oppose; please SNOW it. It is not much of an event . Yet RΔ𝚉🌑R-𝕏 (talk) 14:56, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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RD: Najmuddin Shaikh

Article: Najmuddin Shaikh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): DAWN
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Ainty Painty (talk) 03:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose, missing sources LuxembourgFan42 (talk) 21:50, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

April 1

Portal:Current events/2025 April 1

April 1, 2025 (2025-04-1) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Middle Eastern crisis Gaza war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip UNICEF reports that over 332 children have been killed and 609 injured by the new Israeli military offensive across the Gaza Strip since the resumption of the war after the breakdown of the 2025 ceasefire. (BBC News) (UNICEF) Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement Four people are killed, including Hassan Bdeir, a high-ranking Hezbollah official, and seven others are injured by an Israeli airstrike on a building in Dahieh, Beirut, Lebanon. (Reuters) (Al Jazeera) Red Sea crisis March 2025 United States attacks in Yemen The Houthis claim that they shot down a U.S. military-operated MQ-9 Reaper drone in Marib Governorate, Yemen. (AP) U.S. missile strikes on Hodeidah, Yemen, hit a water management facility, killing at least four people, according to the Houthi-run Al-Masirah network. (Al Jazeera) The U.S. announces it is sending a second aircraft carrier strike group, the USS Carl Vinson group, to the region. (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine The Russian ministry of defence says that Russian forces have captured Rozlyv in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Al Arabiya) Disasters and accidents 2023–2025 Sundhnúkur eruptions Seismic activity increases near Grindavík, Iceland, with the Icelandic Meteorological Office reporting that a volcanic eruption has occurred and a earthquake is being registered. People visiting the Blue Lagoon are evacuated rapidly. (The Watchers) 2025 Putra Heights pipeline fire At least 305 people are injured after a gas pipeline owned by Petronas explodes and ignites a fire in Putra Heights, Selangor, Malaysia. (Malay Mail) A small airplane crashes into a lake in Os near Bergen, Norway, killing the two people onboard. (Sunnmørsposten) International relations Cross-strait relations The Chinese PLA Navy and Air Force conduct large-scale military exercises around Taiwan. At least 19 Chinese warships are deployed, including the aircraft carrier Shandong, marking its closest ever approach to the island. (The Guardian) (Financial Times) Politics and elections Cory Booker's marathon speech U.S. Senator Cory Booker delivers the longest speech in United States Senate history, breaking the previous record set by Strom Thurmond in 1957. (AP News) Science and technology Private spaceflight SpaceX successfully launches four humans into orbit over Earth’s poles for the first time for the human spaceflight mission Fram2. The journey will last three to five days. (The New York Times)

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RD: Johnny Tillotson

Article: Johnny Tillotson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:C807:43E1:28B4:4DD (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TomVenam2021 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American country singer-songwriter. 240F:7A:6253:1:C807:43E1:28B4:4DD (talk) 01:47, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Mark Laforest

Article: Mark Laforest (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Toronto Sun, TSN, American Hockey League
Credits:

• Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Connormah (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Canadian ice hockey goaltender. Article doesn't have any CN tags, nor any other glaring issues at first glance. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:01, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment Career stats need to be cited. Bremps... 00:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

@Bremps common practice in WP:NHL is to source stats from the “Biographical information and career statistics from…” sources listed under “External links” (ex. Eliteprospects, HockeyDB, NHL.com, etc), without a direct link in the table. The Kip ^(contribs) 01:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: George Freeman (guitarist)

Article: George Freeman (guitarist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Tribune
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:5B2:5A14:8151:B74 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kelisi (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American jazz guitarist. 240F:7A:6253:1:5B2:5A14:8151:B74 (talk) 07:03, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Comment If the discography serves as its own citation, then count this as a support vote. Article in GA quality. Bremps... 00:59, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Val Kilmer

Article: Val Kilmer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Damn, had hoped this was April Fools but sadly not. Article currently has citation issues though, including most of the filmography. The Kip ^(contribs) 04:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Really sad. Enjoyed his performances. The article has citing issues, and his death category could use some more. AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan (talk) 04:39, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support as soon as the article polishing is ready. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:28, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Comment - lots and lots of cites needed unfortunately, and filmography almost entirely uncited. Also, pre-emptively, if anyone thinks of proposing a blurb for this, I'll be opposed to that one. Doesn't meet the stature required for that IMHO.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:38, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support Famous actor. Scheridon (talk) 13:54, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support: our man here was popular enough to be remembered. But article needs hefty work to be nominated. RΔ𝚉🌑R-𝕏 (talk) 14:54, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Still a lot of citation needed tags, and a few uncited and untagged paragraphs in the Career section. Departure– (talk) 14:56, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

I'll say that I strongly oppose a blurb - the article does NOT tell me why they were notable beyond saying they were in big movies. Departure– (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support one of the big box-office draws in the later half of the 1980s and early 1990s though article needs work.

SpacedFarmer (talk) 15:34, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• It needs to be pointed out again that for RDs the only thing that matters is quality, and those votes above just saying support due to him being famous are unhelpful. Masem (t) 15:39, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb main page news on BBC and CNN. Fdfexoex (talk) 15:54, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Support It's Val Kilmer, not much more to think through here. If whoever Betty Webb was can go up, he can too. Tidy up the article for sure, but the minute that's done, play ball. Xanblu (talk) 17:03, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

For the love of god, Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:54, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Please do not WP:BITE. BangJan1999 18:47, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Still a number of {{cn}} tags, and the filmography is still completely unsourced. Black Kite (talk) 18:10, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Photo distinction maybe? BilboBeggins (talk) 23:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Sadly oppose article as it stands now. Big orange tag at top. Scuba 13:36, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I realize there is a "big orange tag" on the article, but I don't understand why it is there. Kilmer's article has 112 citations. This sadly is the norm at now for recent deaths, where editors are demanding more sources than required by Wikipedia policies, and prevents longer articles like this from getting to the main page while allowing stubby articles to make it on much easier. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 14:20, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I removed the big orange tag at the top. It seems to apply only to the filmography section (which already has a tag). I added a bunch of references based on Associated Press' article but I don't have time to sift through every single film and TV show (especially the smaller productions) to find all references. I support RD but reserve my judgement on blurb. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 16:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Betty Webb

Article: Betty Webb (code breaker) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Martinevans123 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Elderly UK Bletchey Park code-breaker Martinevans123 (talk) 13:43, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article has no glaring CN issues and is good enough for ITN. Flip^andFlopped ツ 18:51, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Support: no issues and is worthy for being under RD LuxembourgFan42 (talk) 22:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 07:44, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Gas Pipeline Explosion in Malaysia

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Article: 2025 Putra Heights pipeline fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A natural gas pipeline explodes (pictured) in Putra Heights, Selangor, Malaysia, injuring 305 people and causing the destruction of at least 190 houses and 159 vehicles (Post)
News source(s): The Star
Credits:

• Nominated by Scuffedsherm (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

 sherm (talk) 11:58, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Not Ready References are badly messed up, only 2 citations in the lead paragraph. This needs alot of fixing. Shaneapickle (talk) 12:51, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Though the incident had garnered some worldwide attention, I don't think it is notable enough for it to be in ITN. Furthermore the article content need to be reworked Syn73 (talk) 13:05, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose background section has no sources. Besides that, with no deaths and seemingly not-wildly-extensive property damage, I don't really think this rises to the level of ITN. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:27, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose. Not enough sources and with no deaths or massive damage. It isn't worthy of ITN LuxembourgFan42 (talk) 22:32, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - I'm grateful no-one was killed, but that also means this is a relatively commonplace industrial accident. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:49, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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(Closed) China imposes temporary blockade on Taiwan

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Article: Cross-strait relations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ China imposes temporary blockade on Taiwan (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

 Count Iblis (talk) 07:34, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose doesn't look like there's been any real blockade. Banedon (talk) 07:36, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose It's a military exercise, not a blockade. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:14, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. Not a blockade, which is an act of war and if it actually were a blockade US forces would already be on the way per treaty. 331dot (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose run of the mill military exercise. Scuba 10:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Strong oppose until bombs start falling on Taipei, per all above. Departure– (talk) 12:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. These are military exercises in international waters. They're certainly provocative, and China is doing a lot of sabre-rattling today, but it's far from the act of war implied by the nomination. Also, there is zero update in the linked article, and that's too broad a topic anyway - I would expect a stand-alone article to be written before nomination for ITN. Modest Genius ^talk 13:09, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Close or preferably, Withdraw If something changes significantly, feel free to nominate again once the target article has been updated. Jehochman ^Talk 13:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose and SNOW close So what, average day in the Taiwan strait. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:55, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

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(Closed) NBA fight

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Article: Minnesota Target (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A violent altercation broke out during an NBA game on March 31, 2025 between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Detroit Pistons at Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The incident, which drew comparisons to the 2004 Malice at the Palace, resulted in the ejection of 6 players and 2 coaches. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A fight between multiple coaches and players from the Minnesota Timberwolves and Detroit Pistons resulted in Donte DiVincenzo (guard), Naz Reid (center), Timberwolves assistant coach Pablo Prigioni, Ron Holland (basketball) (forward), Isaiah Stewart (center), Marcus Sasser (guard), and Pistons head coach J.B. Bickerstaff. being ejected.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Detroit Pistons: Ron Holland (basketball) (forward), Isaiah Stewart (center), Marcus Sasser (guard), and head coach J.B. Bickerstaff. And, sparked debates on player conduct and security measures in the National Basketball Association.
News source(s):
Credits:

• Nominated by CostalCal (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: A fight between multiple different players and head coaches in the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Detroit Pistons in the National Basketball Association is going viral through the media. And, is drawing comparisons to the 2004 Malice at the Palace incident. CostalCal (talk) 02:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose, fights always happen at sporting events. 675930s (talk) 03:04, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose minor story. Already out of the sports news cycle. Natg 19 (talk) 03:26, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

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(Posted) Marine Le Pen convicted

Articles: Marine Le Pen (talk · history · tag) and National Rally assistants affair (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Three time French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen is convicted on charges of embezzlement and barred from seeking public office for five years. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Marine Le Pen, the runner up in the 2022 French presidential election, is convicted of embezzlement and banned from standing in elections for five years
News source(s): CNN, Le Monde
Credits:

• Nominated by 331dot (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The most popular politician in France(by some measures) and likely candidate again, convicted of a crime and prevented from running for president in 2027 seems worth including. 331dot (talk) 12:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment I think it would benefit from more than one paragraph on this. There's no detail. She was sentenced to prison - was that suspended? We only cover the conviction. Secretlondon (talk) 12:55, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

The details concerning MLP have been added to her BLP. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 21:23, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose criminal getting sentenced is hardly big news. It's not in the news worldwide either, even here in the US with all the surge of popularity of certain far-right/fascist/neo-nazi politicians, i had to scroll all the way to the middle to find a mention of hers on the https://www.nytimes.com/ 2A02:C6C1:A:28E:0:0:0:22 (talk) 13:08, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

It's the top story on the BBC News right now, with an accompanying 'unfolding story' page. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:09, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Don't suppose "politician is a criminal" is news any more? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Polling has her winning both the first round and the second round of the presidential election. She's no ordinary criminal. 331dot (talk) 13:21, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Well if she's been barred from running until 2030 then she can't... Aydoh8^[contribs] 14:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

That's kind of the point of why this is important...? User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 21:10, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Convictions have been posted on ITN before.Sportsnut24 (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

It's very big in the UK. Secretlondon (talk) 14:49, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Weak oppose on notability for now - Le Pen was the frontrunner in French right-wing politics and a conviction like this was unexpected to me - but since they were never properly in office, I can't give my full support as I would to, say, Trump. Departure– (talk) 13:14, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Needs work There's a specific article about this matter: National Rally assistants affair. The article about Marine Le Pen doesn't work for me currently -- it causes Chrome to crash when I try to open it.

And I don't like the proposed blurb as it just calls the offence embezzlement when it seems more political/technical than that. It's not clear why the people that they nominated as assistants were not acceptable.

Andrew🐉(talk) 13:28, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Sources use the word "embezzlement" or "embezzled EU funds" so that's why I did. 331dot (talk) 13:34, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Embezzlement to me suggests personal gain whereas this seems to be more of a party matter as Le Pen is just one of 21 party officials who have been caught violating some technicality. It doesn't seem to be a hand-in-the-till kind of thing. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Misappropriation would probably be less confusing, as basically the people paid (by the EU) to work at the EU parliament were working at the National Front party HQ on national politics and campaigning. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 21:59, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

No problem linking to the article about the scandal itself instead of Le Pen. 331dot (talk) 13:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose per 2A02:C6C1:A:28E:0:0:0:22 Shaneapickle (talk) 13:41, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose there is no target article for the arrest, therefore not ITN worthy. Scuba 14:20, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure where that's a requirement, but I've already said we can link to the article about the scandal itself. 331dot (talk) 14:29, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Sure, that would alleviate some of my concerns. Scuba 16:34, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

obvious oppose knew it'd be nominated. It is in the news, but there's also an appeal pending and it's sub-national. doubt we'd post former potf sarkozy due soon.Sportsnut24 (talk) 14:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

it's not sub-national, it's national. Secretlondon (talk) 14:48, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Sportsnut24 We don't wait for all appeals to be exhausted (which can take years) before posting a conviction. It'd be stale at the end of that time. It's not "sub-national". She is a national figure. When Trump was convicted by the State of New York, that was posted even though New York is "sub-national". Sarkozy has already been convicted of crimes. 331dot (talk) 14:48, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose She's not an ex-President and there's still a legal route of appeal. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 14:51, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  This is akin to keeping Donald Trump out of the 2024 election beforehand(which was attempted and failed). She's the leading candidate in the polls(in the first and second round). We don't wait for all appeals to be exhausted before posting something; it would be stale at the end of that time("should have posted it when it happened!"). I'm not understanding most of the resistance here; I guess ITN is getting away from me. 331dot (talk) 14:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  I'm not understanding the lack of consistency too. Recent examples of postings include the arrest of the Turkish mayor, the arrest of the South Sudanese VP and the arrest of the Philippines former president. Those all seemed quite political and they were arrests not convictions. This French matter seems quite political too but at least it's a conviction, not just an arrest. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:15, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Stop leaving out the context! They have justified notability and not just political disagreement reasons

  1. the arrest of Ekrem İmamoğlu, the mayor of Istanbul was an example of Turkey’s democratic backsliding under Erdogan, which also exploded into the massive 2025 Turkish protests. Hence the notability.
  2. South Sudanese VP arrest marked an end to the South Sudanese Civil War ceasefire agreeement.
  3. Rodrigo Duterte’s arrest by the ICC was part of a larger investigation of his regime’s violent war on drugs that costed many lives. It was also notable as he was the first Asian leader ICC arrest.

  I swear, most of the time I read your comments it is almost lowkey, if not ragebait with the lack of context you keep missing out. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 04:32, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  Be careful what you wish for. The South Sudanese VP is worth saying more about because ITN has run a picture of him and his wife for several days now, as if they are the most important couple in the world; even more important than the big earthquake which is the actual top blurb. This is remarkable because nobody actually cares about this guy or even knows who he is. They couldn't even tell you much about South Sudan and its politics because they get almost no coverage in the news. The vice president that has actually been all over the news lately is JD Vance – visiting Greenland, making waves in Signalgate, picking fights with Zelensky, Europe and the rest of the world. But he is getting zero coverage on ITN because he's American. Marine Le Pen stands a chance of being posted because she's not American but is getting opposition because people have heard of her and she's from a major country that they have heard of too. Is that enough context for you or would you like some more? Andrew🐉(talk) 07:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  None of this takes away from the fact that the original convictions were not posted simply for being convictions. If you have a problem with the image take it up at errors, repeatedly bringing up the South Sudanese item in unrelated noms is an abuse of the process and disruptive at this point.

  And no we are not a news ticker and especially not for Trump and his cabinet.

  Your reply is also unnecessarily abrasive. Gotitbro (talk) 10:56, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  This is an international project. Secretlondon (talk) 16:53, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  This is akin to keeping Donald Trump out of the 2024 election beforehand(which was attempted and failed).

  Let us not devolve ITN into baseless forumy gossip. Gotitbro (talk) 11:12, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  Just as a comment, we know nearly every conviction will be appealed, but for purposes of ITN that initial conviction is sufficient evidence for posting, and if the conviction does get overturned we would also have reason to post that. (I believe we did that we Cosby recently). I'm not suggesting that's a reason to post this, but we should not let the fact that a conviction is getting appealed be reason to not post if all other considerations were met. Masem (t) 15:12, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Worth nothing that, per Reuters, "Appeals in France can take months or even years", and "Le Pen's five-year public office ban cannot be suspended by appeal". Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 20:20, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

It cannot be suspended during the appeal process, but of course it could be shortened or rescinded by a successful appeal. This is what happened with Juppé... -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 23:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support in principle - she came second in the most recent election, and opinion polls show her as having a good chance of winning the next one, so this isn't some obscure politician. We do have a specific article about the case: National Rally assistants affair, however it's pretty brief at present. That article should be brought up to postable standard and used as the bold link. I've proposed an altblurb above. Modest Genius ^talk 15:10, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  The article is still fairly brief but now of postable standard. Switching to full support. Modest Genius ^talk 10:58, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support I'm actually surprised there is so much opposition to this. This is France - a G7 country, nuclear power, permanent member of the UN Security Council etc and Le Pen was leading the polls of prospective presidential candidates for 2027. There's always going to be a cloud over things like this as to whether they are in fact political stitch ups. As for appeals I don't see that as a reason not to post now, the conviction is already beyond all reasonable doubt and the bar from office is being applied from this point. I can't help but feel some of the opposition here is a pro-Anglophone bias and while that may be justifiable to some extent in our editorial decisions on the English Wikipedia this is a big story from a world power. 3142 (talk) 15:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability, as this is quite major news internationally, especially in context to both illiberal politics and Europe, both of which are some of the dominant topics of geopolitics. PrimalMustelid (talk) 15:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Alternative blurb clearly important and got international attention, unlike original blub with attached article Braganza (talk) 16:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support altblurb It's an unusual event that is getting widespread global coverage in the reliable sources even outside of France - so, why not? As the IP address oppose votes itself points out, it is getting covered by the New York Times. But in case that wasn't enough, see also Times of India, Sydney Herald, Times of Israel, Toronto Star. All of those publications have not only the linked articles, but now multiple articles about the ramifications of this arrest. This should be blurbed. Flip^andFlopped ツ 16:55, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support altblurb – certainly in the news, and well covered in the article. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 17:42, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support altblurb - Major political figure in a G7 country, leading in polls for the next presidential election, finished second in 2022, now convicted and barred from office. Widely covered in international news media. --PJ Geest (talk) 17:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Le Pen article has a few unsourced statements. Also would suggest noting twelve others were also convicted in the same trial on the blurb. Masem (t) 18:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose. She's not a president or ex-president, so why is this notable enough for ITN? There are countless officials of actual executive governments who get convicted without receiving an ITN, and Marine Le Pen lacks even those political credentials.

675930s (talk) 18:32, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per above additionally she is not a head of state and the event did not have a separate article.

QalasQalas (talk) 19:11, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

QalasQalas, Nominations do not necessarily need separate articles. Where did this incorrect notion appear from? I feel like I have seen it repeated a lot recently. Curbon7 (talk) 02:09, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Per most of the above. We don't post national political events other than elections or changes in heads of state/government. And she is/was neither. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:50, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  That's not true, Ad Orientem. It's one thing to personally oppose national political events other than elections or changes in heads of state (a potentially defensible position), but objectively speaking, we've posted arrests, arraignments and convictions of major political figures many times in the past, including examples like Trump but also very recently some politicians from Turkey and Sudan. There's no ITN policy rule against it and it wouldn't be a deviation from standard practice to post this, so I don't think that's a fair rationale. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Ad Orientem Respectfully, you can't tell me that we wouldn't have posted Trump being kept out of the last presidential election. 331dot (talk) 09:23, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  I concede that Trump would probably have been posted, though I'm not sure I'd have supported. That said, Trump was an ex-president. Prominent opposition candidates are barred from seeking office all the time and are rarely noted here. As a criminal case, this was pretty paltry stuff. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:07, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  This is most comparable to if Trump was convicted (in a political event) prior to his first election in 2016. Trump can't really be compared to Le Pen in this instance because Le Pen has been active in French politics for years whereas Trump was on the outside; Le Pen has been the face of the national rally for years, but was never the head of state or government like Trump was in his convictions. Departure– (talk) 14:11, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support – Leading candidate in the upcoming French presidential election barred from running. Le Pen is also internationally known, this has received international reactions and coverage. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 20:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Strong oppose National politician who never held head of state/government position gets convicted of a crime. Yawn. We didn't post Trump's arrest for very similar reasons (which I would have opposed as well, despite him having held both positions in a country with far more media reach than France) – why is Le Pen different? Sure, it's in the news. But that's not what ITN is. Hold ourselves to our standards, please. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 20:54, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  I hesitate to keep reminding people of this across this nom, but you are mistaken. Sure, we didn't post Trump's arrest, but we did post both his arraignment (twice, actually) and his conviction. This nom is for her conviction (similar to the Trump conviction we posted), and not an arrest. If we are "holding ourselves to our standards", we would therefore be posting this... Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:22, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support altblurb, she appears to have been the current favourite in the 2027 election before she was barred from running. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 21:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Comment -- It is correct that the ban on running for office is effective immediately, whereas the 2 years of house arrest and loss of her lower house seat will not take effect until all appeals have been exhausted. It does appear she may lose her departmental council seat immediately, though that is not int'l news. The loss of eligibility for the 2027 presidential race could theoretically see the inside of an appeals court some weeks before the election, but running a campaign under such circumstances seems rather fraught. Cf. 20 minutes (in French)-- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 21:14, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Nothing prevented us from posting Navalny's conviction in Russia, so please hold ourselves to our standards and post this. Furthermore, she was leading the opinion polls for the next presidential election at the time of her conviction. It seems like there's a wave of harshly eliminating prospective presidential candidates from running for the office. Firstly, Georgescu was barred in Romania, then İmamoğlu was arrested and lost his university degree in Turkey, and now comes Le Pen's conviction in France. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Cf. Alain Juppé's ineligibility after his criminal conviction. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 23:03, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Question Jog my memory, have we posted Trump being convicted (while not president), because as I see it this is a comparable situation. Kingsif (talk) 23:06, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Kingsif Yes, we did - for his state conviction in New York on May 30, 2024. We further posted his 2023 arraignment in the New York case as well as posted his 2023 indictment in the federal documents case. Unlike this conviction of Le Pen, none of those three actually had the immediate impact of barring him from running again for President in the next election. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:12, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Former head of state is notable, but did we posted before 2016 earlier than he became president? QalasQalas (talk) 23:20, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Well, before 2016 isn't really a fair comparator, because he was not yet a politician nor was he the presidential candidate in a national election yet. Of course we would not be posting any blurbs about him, just like we would not be posting any blurbs about Le Pen for a period before she had even entered politics. A better comparison would be, if Trump had lost in 2016 and then been arrested some years later, would we post that? Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Criteria is simple: former head of state but not former runner-up, also failed separate article. QalasQalas (talk) 23:42, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  I disagree, there's no hard policy rule against posting news related to high-profile runner ups (in fact if they're globally "in the news", then criteria would actually fully support posting like any other story), and the scandal from which this conviction stems does have a separate article, albeit which needs some expansion and translation work from its French-language equivalent. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose on quality The story is definitely in the news, but the target article is not yet in a state to be posted. Gust Justice (talk) 23:39, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Agreed. Someone just added the expand from French template, which I agree with, but I also need sleep. zzzz.  :) (updated below) -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 23:55, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support per above. --SpectralIon 23:58, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support on notability Le Pen is a very notable runner-up in French presidential elections. Her being barred from seeking public office is a notable development. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:30, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support alt-blurb. The entry dedicated to the affair is of reasonable quality thanks to the efforts of several people now. It still does not enter into the detail of the French page, but it's not clear to me that such detail is entirely desirable. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 06:56, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Let us not normalize Main Page as a bulletin for convictions, criminal investigations etc. I understand making crime BLP exceptions for heads of state and the like and blaring that on the front page but to do that for any political heavyweight is miguided, especially when no immediate consequences are present (any effect on 2027 elections is quite far out). I will have to say a no, ITN shouldn't be headed in this direction. Gotitbro (talk) 10:50, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  This, giving her space on the mainpage is tantamount of advertising her and her party on the main page of one of the top 10 most popular websites in the world 2A02:C6C1:A:28E:0:0:0:22 (talk) 13:18, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Ad Orientem, and would like to voice my opposition to the Trump comparisons - he had already served a term as president when arrested/convicted, and the notability was in being the first American (former) head of state to become a convicted felon. Conversely, Le Pen has never served as French president (and hopefully never will...) The Kip ^(contribs) 14:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  On the contrary, I think the notability in Trump's case - I remember discussion vibes if not all outcomes - was that he was actively in the running for president while being convicted, much like Le Pen. If it was simply that he was a former office holder, and not seeking election, I am not sure his convictions would’ve been posted: instead of the intersection of convicted criminal/running for globally-significant office that is mirrored with Le Pen, he would just be any other private citizen with a criminal record. Kingsif (talk) 23:38, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Support especially alt-blurb, Marine Le Pen is very much a key figure in French politics, and could've very likely won if she wasn't barred, despite not winning the presidency previously. I feel also the comparisons to other events is apt, and does establish precedent for this case. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 14:50, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

She was polling at 36%, sure she might've win the first round but as with 2017 and 2022 the entire french political scene would've rallied around her second round opponent. Saying that she 'could've very likely won' is disingenuous. Scuba 16:37, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

The reality is that, right now, she was leading in the polls. Saying that her first-round victory wouldn't necessarily translate to a second-round victory is true, but to treat her winning the election as an impossibility is contrary to RSes and runs afoul of WP:CRYSTALBALL DecafPotato (talk) 21:29, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support — The conviction of a prominent opposition politician (see Donald Trump) that bars the opposition candidate from running in the next presidential election (see Jair Bolsonaro) even though that person has not before held the office they have been banned from seeking (see Ekrem İmamoğlu and Alexei Navalny). DecafPotato (talk) 21:32, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  Imamoglu was posted because of the protests not due to his arrest. Navalny's death was posted (death as a story) not his conviction. Gotitbro (talk) 01:34, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support We do post convictions when notable, and the case of an individual in the running (and a major candidate) for leadership of a G7 nation not only becoming a convicted criminal but this also barring them from the election, is empirically such a case. What has swayed me to a full support (rather than something qualified, as there are various world leaders and candidates - of less globally significant nations TBF - whose criminal status doesn’t touch the MP) is the precedent established by the posting of Trump being convicted while running for office. In the relevant ways, such offices and convictions are comparable. Kingsif (talk) 23:44, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  The Trump case is fundamentally different; a former president convicted in an election year cannot be equated with the conviction of a presidential hopeful who's never held public office and who's prospectives for that post might be affected two years from now. My view would be the same if a major Democratic/Republican face for the next presidential election [Trump cannot run] were to be convicted now. Gotitbro (talk) 01:43, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

who's never held public office. I'm very surprised how many times this misinformation has been repeated in this discussion. She's holding two public offices right now and has obviously been an MEP in the past based on the nature of the conviction. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 09:26, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

What I meant by public officer/public official (and others who may have used the term here) is someone actually serving in/heading a government office/department/agency. Parliamentarian, deputy, councillor, party/faction head wasn't meant and often in common paralance isn't. And from what I can see Le Pen has never been a minister, government official or headed any government branch (executive or otherwise). This wasn't meant to be misinformation in the slightest. Gotitbro (talk) 14:33, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

@Gotitbro I respect your opinion that the Trump case is fundamentally different, but it is just that - your opinion - and one I think my !vote makes it clear I disagree with. There may be differences but there are many relevant similarities (both things surely unarguable fact) and, to me, the similar intersection is what's fundamental to this 'type' of story being ITN-worthy. Again, you can disagree, but that's what my invocation of Trump precedent was saying. Kingsif (talk) 10:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I understand and see where the similarities maybe seen to lie on the face of it but my comment is based on the heft of the arguments used in the Trump posting (not one goes without mentioning that he was a former pres [at the time]). That is why I disagree in seeing a precedent there for this. Gotitbro (talk) 11:11, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support having posted the arrest of Ekrem İmamoğlu, we kind of have to post this to remain consistent. Banedon (talk) 02:18, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  Ehhh, that was more about the protests that followed. The French have a strong tradition of protest so I won't be surprised if we have to amend the blurb soon. Bremps... 02:42, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support A major French political figure being convicted. If American Hillary it would posted quickly. ArionStar (talk) 15:04, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Alt1. The "ayes have it" not just numerically, but also some of the nays have the weaker argument. Schwede66 20:55, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

March 30

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March 30, 2025 (2025-03-30) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Red Sea crisis Israel intercepts a ballistic missile fired from Yemen in the eighth Houthi attack since the Israeli Defense Force resumed the Gaza war. The Houthis claim to have launched three attacks with drones, missiles, and naval forces against the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman in the past 24 hours. (The Times of Israel) Disasters and accidents 2025 Myanmar earthquake Structures and infrastructure affected by the 2025 Myanmar earthquake The count of the total amount of destroyed ancient pagodas and religious buildings in Myanmar rises to 61, including the previously unreported Four-Storied Monastery in Inwa, Mandalay Region. (NP) Severe weather and tornadoes break out in the areas between south Indiana and north east Texas, United States. (The New York Times) Three children are killed and three other people are injured after a tree hits their vehicle near Kalamazoo, Michigan. (AP) A 7.0 Mw earthquake strikes near the island country of Tonga with a 6.1 Mw aftershock. A tsunami warning is issued and later lifted. (AP) International relations Middle Eastern crisis Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian says that Iran will not have direct negotiations with the U.S. on its nuclear program, but is open for indirect talks to rebuild trust, after U.S. president Donald Trump threatened "bombing" if Iran does not agree to a new nuclear deal. (Al Jazeera) (Reuters) Law and crime A bus driver shoots and kills two passengers on a Miami-Dade Transit bus in Miami Gardens, Florida, United States. (AP) Science and technology German space programme The uncrewed German-built Spectrum orbital rocket is launched in Andøya, Norway, becoming the first orbital rocket to launch from mainland Europe. The rocket stays in the air for just over half a minute before striking the ground and exploding. (The Guardian) (VG)

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RD: Reinaldo Herrera

Article: Reinaldo Herrera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Venezuelan aristocrat and journalist. NY Times obit published 30 March. Thriley (talk) 18:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Not Ready It's a three sentence -20 word - stub. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:53, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose I'm not sure the subject is notable per WP:INHERIT. Bremps... 02:44, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Oppose written when they died. Sub-stub and looks non-notable. Secretlondon (talk) 12:17, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Notwithstanding your other valid reason, BIOs being written after a subject has died is not a reason to oppose, and indeed many times the death of a person has been the motivating factor to create and/or improve perfectly legitimate if not necessary biographies. Kingsif (talk) 10:40, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality. Among the sources is a full RS obit, though, so there should be enough source info to better judge the notability even if just the one strong source (at the moment) probably won't fill out a bio alone. Kingsif (talk) 10:40, 3 April 2025 (UTC) Procedural oppose: NY Times may have posted their obit on 30 March, but his death was published in English-language media on 19 March People, so this is stale. Kingsif (talk) 10:49, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

March 29

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March 29, 2025 (2025-03-29) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Middle Eastern crisis Gaza war March 2025 Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip The Israeli Defense Forces launch a new ground offensive on Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip. (Al Jazeera) Red Sea crisis March 2025 United States attacks in Yemen One person is killed and four more are injured by U.S. military airstrikes in the Saada Governorate, Yemen. (Yahoo News) Russian invasion of Ukraine Kharkiv strikes A Russian drone attack on Kharkiv, Ukraine, kills two people and injures 30 others, including five children. A shopping centre, multi-story residential buildings, a medical facility, and an office building were among those targeted. (Ukrainska Pravda) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Ten civilians are killed in an alleged anti-insurgents security operation in Katlang, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. The Pakistani government reports that circumstances will be investigated. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2025 Brooklyn Park TBM-700 crash A SOCATA TBM-700 crashes into an unoccupied house in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, United States, killing everyone on board. (FOX9 News) One person is killed and four others are injured in an explosion at a factory in İzmir, Turkey. (Caliber) Law and crime Protests against Donald Trump Protests against Elon Musk, Protests against the second presidency of Donald Trump Protests are held at Tesla dealerships across the United States, Canada, and Europe to protest against DOGE chief and Tesla CEO Elon Musk's role in the second Trump administration. (Taipei Times) (AP) Gaza war protests Security forces open fire at a pro-Palestine march organized by the Islamic Movement of Nigeria, in Abuja, Nigeria, killing five people and arresting 19 more. A policeman is killed in the subsequent clashes. (AP) Four people are injured in a stabbing attack in Trondheim, Norway, with the perpetrator being arrested. (Euro Weekly News) Politics and elections Second Syrian transitional government Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa announces the creation of a new transitional government, following the fall of the Bashar al-Assad regime. (Reuters)

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RD: Richard Chamberlain

Article: Richard Chamberlain (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3v9xzw09z0o
Credits:

• Nominated by Fdfexoex (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American actor. Fdfexoex (talk) 16:30, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Support The article is well-cited, to the exception of his filmography section, which for the most part is missing accompanying footnotes for all of his listed television or movie appearances. However, for the vast majority of the entries, there is a hyperlink to the corresponding Wiki article which in turn is well-referenced. It would be ideal if the handful of entries without a hyperlinked wiki article (on account of the film either not passing GNG or not having an article yet), at least had a citation though. With this being said, it's a good enough quality article and this issue is relatively minor. Flip^andFlopped ツ 19:36, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
• Not Ready for the usual reason. The tables in particular are in rough shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Solar eclipse of March 29, 2025

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Article: Solar eclipse of March 29, 2025 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The first solar eclipse of 2025 is visible from much of Europe and North America. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN, NASA, Times of Israel
Credits:

• Created by SockPuppetForTomruen (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Onemillionthtree (talk · give credit)

 Wikihmdmner (talk) 12:14, 29 March 2025 (UTC)Wikihmdmner}

• Support It's all over the news, getting lots of attention and I just saw it for myself. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:18, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose More than half the article is given to discussion of other eclipses, which I cannot recall being the case for eclipses that we did post. It's nowhere close to quality expected for this. Masem (t) 12:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as per Masem. Most of the article is talking about other eclipses. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:26, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• It seems that a lot of our eclipse articles are like that, but that is an issue for a different forum. Natg 19 (talk) 15:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• However, when we have posted eclipses in the past, such as Solar eclipse of April 8, 2024 (And specifically considering the state at the end of the day, [2]) shows that a lot more information about the current eclipse should be present. Further from that old version, this massive section on related eclipses has grown massively since last year. Masem (t) 17:13, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong oppose I don't see anything distinguishing this in any real way from any other eclipses. Also, it's a partial eclipse but that isn't mentioned in the current blurb proposal. Viewership and being "in the news" doesn't mean much if it doesn't have a real impact; I suspect coverage will massively die down now that the event has concluded. Departure– (talk) 17:43, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

The eclipse was a big hit with our readers yesterday – over quarter of a million of them. That was more than double the level of interest in the earthquake. The topics not getting much attention are the Sudanese items which we are blurbing. Just about no-one is interested in those. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:22, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Reader 'interest' has never been an ITN criteria (the same applies to views). Breakdown of significant treaties and catastrophic earthquakes will always be of much more ITN significance than random eclipses. WP:TOP25 exists, if you want it to be featured on the Main Page start a proposal, but personal interest in pageviews should not be confounded for ITN acceptability. Gotitbro (talk) 09:24, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

We'd get many more clicks if we just posted celebrity news. We're an international encyclopaedia Secretlondon (talk) 14:40, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose A partial solar eclipse covering a miniscule amount of the world population. --SpectralIon 23:15, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support. A good warmup for the next total eclipse visible from here. Count Iblis (talk) 23:41, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose only partial, limited media coverage. I saw this myself but it isn't impactful enough to justify an ITN blurb. Besides, the article mostly describes the sequences it belongs to, not anything unusual about this particular eclipse. Modest Genius ^talk 14:01, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose a routine partial eclipse. Nfitz (talk) 23:11, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per other oppose votes above. History6042😊 (Contact me) 10:37, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - an extremely routine event. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

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March 28

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March 28, 2025 (2025-03-28) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli invasion of Lebanon 2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement The Israel Defense Forces strikes southern Beirut, Lebanon, for the first time since November 2024, violating the ceasefire agreement. (CNN) Russian invasion of Ukraine Dnipro strikes A Russian drone attack on Dnipro, Ukraine, kills four people and wounds 19 others. Multiple buildings in the city are reported to be ablaze, including a hotel, resort, a restaurant complex and numerous apartments. (Reuters) Red Sea crisis March 2025 United States attacks in Yemen At least seven people are injured by U.S. military airstrikes in the Yemeni capital city Sanaa. (Euronews) Disasters and accidents 2025 Myanmar earthquake 2025 Bangkok skyscraper collapse An under-construction government office skyscraper collapses in Bangkok, Thailand, killing at least six people and leaving more than 101 others missing and trapped under the rubble. (CTV News) A 7.7 magnitude earthquake strikes Sagaing, Myanmar, with significant damages reported as far away as Bangkok, Thailand. Over 1,000 people are killed in Myanmar and ten more in Thailand. A state of emergency is declared by the Myanmar government. (CNN Live) (NBC News) The Ava Bridge in Mandalay Region, Myanmar, partially collapses as a result of the earthquake. (News18) Russian authorities say that yesterday's sinking of the Sindbad submarine in Hurghada, Egypt, killing six Russians, happened during boarding and not due to a collision as reported. (The National) International relations Proposed United States acquisition of Greenland U.S. Vice President JD Vance and several other senior Trump administration officials visit the Pituffik Space Base, a United States Space Force facility in Greenland. (NPR) Law and crime Arrest of Ekrem İmamoğlu Turkish authorities detain Mehmet Pehlivan, a lawyer representing opposition leader Ekrem İmamoğlu in the ongoing investigation, and later release him. (Reuters)

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RD: Temmy Shmull

Article: Temmy Shmull (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Island Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Sahaib (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Cheney123 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Palauan politician whose death was announced a couple of days ago. Sahaib (talk) 22:33, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

RD: Richard Norton (actor)

Article: Richard Norton (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News (Australia)
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:7408:4691:F0A6:1F63 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit) and FrostFairBlade (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Australian actor, martial artist and stuntman. 240F:7A:6253:1:7408:4691:F0A6:1F63 (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Unreferenced date of birth. Schwede66 21:32, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  I've just added an extra footnote for the DoB. However, much of the rest of the prose on this wikipage is not yet adequately sourced. The Filmography section is a long list of unsourced bullet-points. More REFs are needed. --PFHLai (talk) 00:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Heloísa Teixeira

Article: Heloísa Teixeira (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El País obituary
Credits:

• Nominated by Jaguarnik (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Flipandflopped (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Brazilian literary critic Jaguarnik (talk) 17:50, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Short but well-cited enough. Bremps... 02:14, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Support agree with Bremps, no glaring CN issues and contains all the essential information. I added a few refs for some missing citations to her publications/poems. Tagging ready. Flip^andFlopped ツ 04:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 21:27, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Young Scooter

Article: Young Scooter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:28A1:685F:B0BB:8AF4 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Llacb47 (talk · give credit) and Flipandflopped (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American rapper. 240F:7A:6253:1:28A1:685F:B0BB:8AF4 (talk) 06:59, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Mostly cited. Passable for posting. Bremps... 19:24, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Not Quite Ready but close. The guest appearances table has a bunch of cites needed. Otherwise I think the article appears to be in decent shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:01, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support @Admins willing to post ITN: Went through and sourced all of the missing entries in the discography and guest appearances sections, addressed orange-tagged sections and all CN/unreliable source tags. Marking ready! Flip^andFlopped ツ 05:00, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
• Unreferenced date of birth. Schwede66 21:23, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  Schwede66, added a source. He unfortunately died on his birthday, actually. Flip^andFlopped ツ 22:04, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  I've just added an extra footnote for the DoB. Hope this helps. -- PFHLai (talk) 22:06, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 22:59, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

March 27

Portal:Current events/2025 March 27

March 27, 2025 (2025-03-27) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine North Korea has sent 3,000 more soldiers to bolster Russia’s war on Ukraine, South Korea’s military says. (CNN World) Middle Eastern crisis Gaza war March 2025 Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip Hamas announces that an Israeli airstrike has killed Abdel Latif al-Qanou, who served as Hamas' spokesman. (Al Arabiya) Red Sea crisis Israel intercepts two ballistic missiles launched by the Houthis from Yemen. (Reuters) Haitian crisis Gang war in Haiti A Kenyan police officer deployed in Haiti as part of the Multinational Security Support Mission is killed in a suspected gang ambush, according to Haitian authorities. Kenya has confirmed that the officer is missing but has not yet verified his death. (BBC News) Business and economy Tariffs in the second Trump administration 2025 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney says a 25% tariff on automotive imports to the United States is a "direct attack" on his country by the Trump administration and vows to respond. (AP) Japan confirms it has asked the U.S. for an exemption from the new automotive tariffs, saying the 25% tariff on vehicle imports would have a massive negative impact on its automotive industry. Japan is one of the largest exporters of cars to the United States. (Kyodo News) The United States suspends financial contributions to the World Trade Organization. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents March 2025 South Korea wildfires, Landmarks destroyed by climate change Ongoing climate-exacerbated wildfires in South Korea develop into the worst natural fire disaster in the nation's history after doubling in size over the course of 24 hours, killing at least 26 people and destroying much of the ancient Gounsa temple site. (The Guardian) (Yonhap News) At least six people are killed and 39 others are rescued after a Sindbad submarine carrying Russian tourists sinks off the Red Sea coast of Hurghada, Egypt. (BBC News) Two people are killed, including alpine skier Berkin Usta, and four others are injured in a fire at a ski resort in Uludağ, Turkey. (Metro) Health and environment British environmental activist group Just Stop Oil announces they will end all civil resistance, direct action, and vandalism-related protests immediately and disband by April 26 after the British government announced it will halt the granting of new oil and gas permits. (DW) (Government of the United Kingdom) International relations Belarus–European Union relations The European Union announces that they have expanded sanctions against Belarus to include the Central Election Commission of Belarus for political repression in the country. (Reuters) Law and crime 2025 Amsterdam stabbing attack Five people are wounded in a mass stabbing at Dam Square in Amsterdam, Netherlands. The suspect, 30-year-old Ukrainian citizen from Donetsk is arrested by police, and is being investigated with having a terrorist motive. (Reuters) Proposed secession of Republika Srpska The government of Bosnia and Herzegovina issues an international arrest warrant for Milorad Dodik, the president of Republika Srpska, an entity of Bosnia and Herzegovina, accusing him of repeatedly taking actions that could violate the Dayton Accords. (DW) (AP) South Sudanese vice president Riek Machar is detained by security forces following an arrest warrant on "unclear charges", according to his spokesperson. The Sudan People's Liberation Movement-in-Opposition says Machar's arrest has effectively ended the 2018 peace agreement which ended the civil war. (Sky News) Crime in Peru The home of Luis Villanueva, leader of the Workers' General Confederation of Peru (CGTP), is damaged by an explosive device. Business associations condemned the attack and increased demands on the government to strengthen the fight against organized crime. (La Vanguardia)

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(Posted) RD: Hans-Josef Klauck

Article: Hans-Josef Klauck (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): University of Würzburg
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German Franciscan theologian who taught not only in Würzburg and Munich but for a long time in Chicago. He wrote standard books on New Testament and early Christianity. The article was very basic. The refs have more detail if someone has the time to add. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support Appropriate depth, fully referenced. Spencer^T•C 01:16, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support although there are two works that need ISBN citations. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 03:04, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
  • They are covered in the ref at the start of the bibliography section. Spencer^T•C 06:12, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

  ISBN citations added. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:19, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 20:26, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ray Barra

Article: Ray Barra (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tanznetz
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Created by Edwardx (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: iconic American ballet dancer, Romeo in Cranko's Romeo and Juliet (Cranko), later ballet master, choreographer and director. The article was basically there, even two refs that looked lost just needed url update. More may come. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:55, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support No issues. According to Scherzo, he died March 27, 2025. Grimes2 (talk) 17:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support One cn tag but it's not enough to hold up posting. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:04, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 04:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Sagaing earthquake

Article: 2025 Sagaing earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A magnitude 7.7 earthquake strikes Myanmar, affecting Southeast Asia and killing at least 21 people. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Bakhos2010 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Dora the Axe-plorer (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I know the article have the short sentence, we're gonna expanding the article for now, and the earthquake event is insane. Bakhos Let's talk! 06:51, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Even though there are no reports from Myanmar yet, there is already a news about building collapsing in Bangkok. Given how rare a significant earthquake Bangkok is, I think it might deserve a blurb. NotKringe (talk) 07:31, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment I reckon "strikes" is a better conjugation for the blurb. With the building collapse in Thailand I think it should mention "affects Thailand" or "Southeast Asia" or something. ―Panamitsu (talk) 07:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support - major earthquake, article isn't in bad shape, and will be improved as more information comes to light. Mjroots (talk) 08:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support - significant and rare earthquake in a highly populated and globally connected region. Blurb should update to reflect impacts across SE Asia. 202.144.171.99 (talk) 08:22, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Strong Support - Very strong and rare earthquake has occurred in a densely populated area, and subsequent casualty reports may be extremely severe. Nagae Iku (talk) 09:14, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong Support As this earthquake has affected in dense areas in Myanmar and Thailand. --Wutkh (talk) 09:22, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support: Extensive international coverage as the earthquake affected Bangkok. A rare incident as Thailand usually does not experience such catastrophic earthquakes. Tofusaurus (talk) 09:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support the quake's epicenter is basically right at Mandalay, a city of 2 million. Considering the damage done in Bangkok 1000 km away, it is unfortunately quite likely to get extremely ugly.

• Support - Major earthquake. --Tupungato (talk) 10:09, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Strong support Major natural disaster involving many casualties ElectronicsForDogs (talk) 10:22, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support this is a major earthquake. ROY is WAR Talk! 11:05, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. sadly I suspect this will be one where the death toll keeps rising so may need tweaking as we go along.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:44, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
  • @Amakuru: Now 191 confirmed dead, so I would suggest at least changing it to "over 150", to more closely reflect the scope. BD2412 T 19:27, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

    I request a change to "over 200" as the article says 213 now. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 21:00, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

     Done thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 23:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

  The BBC is reporting 694 now. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 04:03, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Note that's only Myanmar, there's 10 from Thailand, so it totals 704. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:12, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Admins willing to post ITN: over 700 now :( Natg 19 (talk) 04:52, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Changed to over 800 per the BBC source linked above. charlotte ^👸♥ 04:56, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Admins willing to post ITN: over 1000 now source link from article EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 05:43, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

 Done by Schwede66 charlotte ^👸♥ 05:54, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Admins willing to post ITN: over 1600 now, same Article as EmeraldRange 2001:9E8:DA57:3E00:D015:1C1F:9B3C:AD2E (talk) 16:02, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

For small updates like that, WP:ERRORS will get you a quicker response. --PFHLai (talk) 18:14, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support. It also triggered a small tsunami. Count Iblis (talk) 23:32, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Arrest of Riek Machar

Article: Riek Machar#2025 arrest (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Vice president of South Sudan Riek Machar (pictured) and his wife, interior minister Angelina Teny, are detained, leading the SPLM-IO to declare the 2018 peace agreement void. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The SPLM-IO unilaterally voids the 2018 peace agreement after South Sudanese vice president Riek Machar (pictured) and interior minister Angelina Teny are detained.
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by Bremps (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Ripping up a peace deal is big. Developing Bremps... 19:13, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose + Close This should not be an issue, political arrests are domestic issues, although the ripping up might be an issue, still it is too soon to talk of any reprecussions, see WP:CRYSTAL Shaneapickle (talk) 19:18, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Political arrests are posted on ITN all the time. Just this month, Duterte and İmamoğlu's arrests were posted, and Yoon Suk Yeol in January. Estreyeria (talk) 20:44, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I gave my reasoning "No reprecussions have been coming out of the ripping of peace treaties or arrests" Shaneapickle (talk) 12:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

@Shaneapickle: please don't advocate for a close in the first comment of the nomination, however strongly you may oppose with it. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Similar crackdown on opposition to the arrest of Imamoglu, though possibly with wider consequences given the declaration that the peace deal is nullified. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:40, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support, noting that [o]ppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one is listed in WP:ITNCDONT. The political ramifications are important, especially since the peace agreement has been declared void – that part is not WP:CRYSTAL. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:07, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support, note that the German embassy pulled out of South Sudan earlier this month due to fears of the civil war restarting. The voiding of the peace agreement would be significant enough to post regardless of the event that caused it. If the conflict restarts while this is still up, I'd support merging or pulling it.

Kowal2701 (talk) 22:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Comment As everyone is saying the end of agreement is the big thing, I would recommend the blurb be flipped to focus on this, and perhaps the agreement article should be the target. Masem (t) 22:13, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  The issue is that we don't have a separate article for the agreement (only a section at South Sudanese Civil War, which wasn't updated), so not an ideal target for a bold link just yet. However, if it is updated before the blurb is posted/becomes stale, I would support bolding it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  Didn't make a new article, but I updated the section. Take another look? Bremps... 23:36, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  Not everything needs a standalone article if the context of the topic in a larger one makes the larger one more comprehensive, and for purposes of ITN, is appropriately updated with sufficient text about the update. Editors are getting too hung up on "separate article" standards that dont exist and which harm WP by endlessly dissecting topics. — Masem (t) 11:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Could someone combine and to create one image? Bremps... 22:50, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Done. Nagae Iku (talk) 10:30, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Same importance as Impeachment of Sara Duterte. ArionStar (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support altblurb per above. The voiding of the agreement is internationally significant, and ITN has posted consequential arrests of political figures in the past. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support Of course a significant political arrest, and judging by the rejection of the peace agreement it threatens to restart South Sudan's civil war. --SpectralIon 04:56, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support per all above. We have also previous ITN like Arrest of Rodrigo Duterte on ICC. ROY is WAR Talk! 11:04, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support—I agree with those who say that the focus should be on the voiding of the peace agreement. Under authoritarian regimes, political opponents are arrested all the time; a peace agreement coming to and end, however, is typically a far more consequential event. Kurtis ^(talk) 15:35, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 03:44, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  @Schwede66 Could you change the image with ? Thanks. Bremps... 19:21, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Can do. It's currently queueing for protection. Schwede66 23:16, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  @Schwede66 May you add "first" before "vice president" in the blurb? Bremps... 12:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

  Not sure about that, Bremps. This could be misunderstood as him being the inaugural VP. And as it stands, we can’t link to the target article’s section without causing a sea of blue. I’m also not sure that it’s that important to specify. If you feel strongly about it, Bremps, could you please post at Errors for broader input? Schwede66 15:25, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Now ITN has only three blurbs and two are about Sudan. If the two blurbs are related, can we combine them into one blurb to make space for other news? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.75.95.28 (talk) 06:03, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

They are unconnected events so just because they take place in the same country, it doesn't make sense to combine them as it implies causality between the two. Masem (t) 18:13, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

To clarify, they didn't even take place in the same country. Despite its name, the Sudan People's Liberation Movement-in-Opposition actually operates in South Sudan (although another split from the same original group, SPLM-N, does still operate in Sudan). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:16, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Comment. "Void" is definitely not the right word here. He has repudiated the agreement, e.g. decided that it no longer has effect and no longer binds him. He has not "voided" it which would have been to declare that it never even existed (I'm not sure this is conceptually even possible for peace agreements?). —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:41, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

  Machar's party said this week that his detention had effectively voided a 2018 peace deal... Bremps... 01:49, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

  He can say what it likes but that doesn't mean we don't need to get it right. "Void" is the wrong word. "Repudiate", "terminate", "ends", even "cancels" would all be fine. Void means something quite different. —Brigade Piron (talk) 16:10, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Note: The South Sudanese gov't announced that Machar was charged with plotting rebellion. Not updated everywhere. Bremps... 02:16, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Peter Lever

Article: Peter Lever (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport
Credits:

• Nominated by Joseph2302 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death date not announced but his death was reported today. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:21, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Not Ready + Wait References all over the place, needs fixing, I am going for wait due to fact that his death date has not been announced, Shaneapickle (talk) 15:24, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

meaning this should wait. Shaneapickle (talk) 15:25, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

The date of death is not relevant to ITN, all that matters is when the death was first reported in reliable sources and the quality of the article. Thryduulf (talk) 22:30, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Seems well-cited enough. Bremps... 23:07, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Still Not Ready There is still alot of references jumbled up in a huge mess with no footnotes. Shaneapickle (talk) 12:36, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Upon reading and assessing the article, I agree with Bremps. It's not perfect, but all of its claims are cited with a footnote to a decent-enough sorce; it meets our typical RD standards. Flip^andFlopped ツ 02:54, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Posted.--PFHLai (talk) 17:11, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Battle of Khartoum

Article: Battle of Khartoum (2023–2025) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Sudanese Armed Forces liberate the capital city of Khartoum after nearly two years of battle. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Sudanese Armed Forces recapture Khartoum from the Rapid Support Forces after almost two years of fighting.
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Vamos Palmeiras (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Turning point in the conflict, ending one of the biggest battles in Sudanese and maybe even African history. The LIBERATION of a capital city. Vamos Palmeiras (talk) 02:34, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Apoio Um possível início do fim de mais uma terrível guerra atual. (Support A possible start of the end of one more terrible current war.) ArionStar (talk) 03:02, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support, a capital city changing hands meets ITN and this has lots of reliable news coverage. 675930s (talk) 05:56, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support but bear in mind that oral traditions don’t record casualty counts and rarely specific battles Kowal2701 (talk) 08:33, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose This is covered by Ongoing and it appears that the civil war will continue as the RSF are regrouping. The blurb seems to take sides with its use of the word "liberate" and we should be wary of triumphalist propaganda issued by one side. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:52, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

  Liberate is neutral terminology. When a state reassumes control over territory it lost during the war, that is just called liberation. 675930s (talk) 18:17, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Comment - first of all the quality is not quite there yet, some citations needed especially in the Background section. Secondly, per Andrew we certainly shouldn't be using POV language like "liberated" to describe a complex battle; I have proposed a possible ALT blurb to state what happened without taking sides. On notability, I'd say if it's definitely confirmed then probably the recapture of a capital city is blurbworthy, but I think we might need a bit more certainty from RS that the battle has definitely ended first. So far this seems to be mainly being qualified by saying it's according to Burhan rather than stated as a definite fact.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose, covered by Ongoing. Angusgtw (talk) 12:02, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment - It claims that fighting has ended in Khartoum, but it should still be going as there is still fighting in the outsides of the city. But overall Propose alt blurb I think that there should also be a alt blurb stating " Sudanese Armed Forces retakes the City of Khartoum, although skirmishes going on outside the city" Shaneapickle (talk) 12:39, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - see ongoing. — E_F⁵ 12:48, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support – The capital city has been recaptured. Yes, it is in Ongoing, but we do make exceptions for major events like that, and it is probably the most significant development that could have come out of this war. We would certainly post Kyiv being captured by Russia. Also noting that altblurb is preferable as it doesn't take sides by calling it "liberation". Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:53, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support - The largest city in Sudan being liberated by the government is a big deal. Lukt64 (talk) 14:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support - The recapture of the capital and largest city in Sudan during devastating war is major enough to warrant its own blurb. PrimalMustelid (talk) 14:36, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support altblurb. This is the sort of development that warrants posting a blurb.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 14:56, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support ALT1, as it mentions who the old party in Khartoum was. Big ramifications for Africa.

Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:57, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support IMO, overrides the ongoing item as a major development in the conflict. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:11, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality Very unorderly article, the article suddenly changes format halfway through into a monthly update, with sections only titled by year. It stops reading like an encyclopedic article and more like a war journal. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:16, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment Is "liberation" WP:NPOV? Bremps... 19:17, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

@Bremps: In my opinion, NPOV is one of those things where the best approach is the time-tested rule of thumb: "If you have to ask..." Kurtis ^(talk) 15:41, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

I think it violates WP:NPOV as one side sees the battle as liberation while another side sees it as a fall. INeedSupport ^:3 16:45, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support alt as liberation is a POV characterization. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 20:26, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Use alt blurb as liberate is a value judgment. PhilKnight (talk) 20:41, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Yes nominate this, it is a very important topic this changes almost everything. Liberate does mean to free from under occupation as from I remember. Honestly, why not. We nominate every thing that seems useless why not this? SDUpdates (talk) 20:44, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support I believe the alternative blurb is better. Obviously a major turning point in this conflict and let’s not forget this battle was strategic, major, deadly and in A CAPITAL CITY! NuestroBrasil (talk) 21:03, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Look, the article isn't great, but it's somewhat passable. It's major— imagine Kyiv changed hands. It would be ideal if it were more structured, but this is okay for now. Bremps... 23:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support altblurb1. The most major development possible in a civil war. Article is passable, with no outstanding quality issues (although cleanup would be appreciated.) -insert valid name here- (talk) 01:15, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Removed the "Ready" tag - dozens of CN tags and the quality is just not there for posting. Masem (t) 11:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Also will add that there's really no update in the article on this event yet, maybe a couple sentences. That's nowhere close to an update to support posting outside of the ongoing entry. Masem (t) 11:54, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Altblurb as the original blurb violates WP:NPOV. This battle is a significant event in the Sudanese Civil War that will have worldwide political impacts. INeedSupport ^:3 16:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Alt1. Schwede66 03:29, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Article still has several CN tags and the update is still trivial. should not have been posted in this state. Masem (t) 03:31, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  The Sudanese/South Sudanese situation requires quick post. ArionStar (talk) 17:54, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  ITN does not post quickly if the article quality is not there. — Masem (t) 12:57, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

  Just finished fixing the CN tags! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:12, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Indonesian protests

Article: 2025 Indonesian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nationwide protests erupt across Indonesia in response to the passage of a controversial military law expanding the armed forces' role in governance. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Demonstrations intensify throughout Indonesia following the enactment of legislation increasing military involvement in civilian government roles.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Rising cases of crackdown against freedom of speech, kidnappings, and fears of militarization spark mass protests across Indonesia.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Nationwide protests against the revision of the Indonesian National Armed Forces Law, which expanded the role of the military, erupted in Indonesia.
News source(s): South China Morning Post, Financial Times, Jakarta Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Kaliper1 (talk · give credit)
• Created by DDG9912 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The passage of this law has led to significant public outcry and nationwide demonstrations. Initiated by Indonesian students, it draws concerns over democratic erosion in Indonesia. Article recently changed from 2025 Indonesian Student Protest to 2025 Indonesian Protests due to the prolonged and recently widened scale of the protest to which has reached its second phase and across all 5 major islands. Kaliper1 (talk) 13:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose + Wait This is a domestic protest, we only put the serbian one due to alot of reprecussions it had in the balkans, it is too early to say if there is going to be reprecussions to these protests Shaneapickle (talk) 13:33, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Relevant and important event due to the democratic erosion fears. Even if it is not as "unconstitutional" as the 2025 Turkish protests , which was nominated and posted for ITN btw, it is still notable enough to list into a potential future "2025 Global Spring Protests" article and could still have an effect to the ASEAN (Southeast Asia) regional area, due to Indonesia's size and presence, politically and economically. (P.S. Don't bring up Singapore) SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 15:09, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I think this nomination should wait as we have not seen any reprecussions outside of indonesia. Shaneapickle (talk) 15:12, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

The protests has been ongoing for about a week and occured in the context of a greater act of opposition, which has began since last year. The economic effects are apparent with the falling prices of the IDX Composite several days ago. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:15, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Just would like to add that the mentioned "greater act of opposition since last year" was the 2024 Indonesian local election law protests/Emergency Alert for Indonesia Protests, which even this current 2025 protest also use the same symbol (Indonesian national symbol with an EAS aesthetic background) , but now with different color (previously blue, now black).

Many local Indonesian even consider the current protest as the sequel to the previous 2024 one. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support per SymphonyWizard72's comment. Addressing Shaneapickle's comment, there has been international repercussions, with Indonesian stock prices falling dramatically and condemnation from Reporters Without Borders on the ongoing police violence. There has also been some response from the UN special rapporteur Mary Lawlor. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:11, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support significant and relevant protest. Scuba 15:22, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Now, it has become a long chain of demonstrations with many persecutions occurring. Significant events have taken place during the protests, and they are still ongoing. Namesk1Y (talk) 15:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support as the Turkish ones was posted. ArionStar (talk) 15:46, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Support as the protest wave has recently heightened again in the capital city Sididukubanyak (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 23:31, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting Support Expecting the effect(s) to be long-lasting in return for the short-lasting reform. –Angga (formerly Angga1061) 06:50, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Comment. The current ALT1 "military involvement in civilian government roles" has odd wording (did you mean "civil government") that took me some time to comprehend. Meanwhile, "expanding the armed forces' role in governance" in ALT0 immediately understandable and we should it change to that. Hugoaway (talk) 12:27, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

There's similar euphemisms in the article. Secretlondon (talk) 14:43, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Christina McKelvie

Article: Christina McKelvie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News Sky News
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Drchriswilliams (talk · give credit)
• Created by Thunderwing (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Scottish Government Minister who served in several ministerial positions. Drchriswilliams (talk) 08:20, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• Review needed. Schwede66 17:03, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Support Seems well-cited enough if a bit short. Bremps... 06:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support article looks good to me. Enough coverage of her career and all the content is sourced with RS. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support per Alsoriano97. Flip^andFlopped ツ 18:29, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 23:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

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